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whddya mean poor design??
you have no knowledge of speed/density multiport EFI.
most EVERY 4 stroke speed/density EFI without electronic throttle has used that stepper IAC/ISC for about the last 25 years.
do some fail?
yep.
do gearcases fail?
yep.
do powerheads fail?
yep.
does not always mean a poor design.
I think in the past 25 yrs of doing this I have seen 4 failures of the ISC that took out other componets.
and I see a lot of v6 motors.
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Originally posted by rodbolt17 View Postwhddya mean poor design??
you have no knowledge of speed/density multiport EFI.
most EVERY 4 stroke speed/density EFI without electronic throttle has used that stepper IAC/ISC for about the last 25 years.
do some fail?
yep.
do gearcases fail?
yep.
do powerheads fail?
yep.
does not always mean a poor design.
I think in the past 25 yrs of doing this I have seen 4 failures of the ISC that took out other componets.
and I see a lot of v6 motors.
2011 F50TLR, 2010 G3 V167C
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Originally posted by rejesterd View Post
So it's just a poor design,
As technology progress most any modern technology becomes antiquated. Carburetors to throttle body EFI. Throttle body EFI to multiport EFI. EFI to direct injection. EFI with mechanical throttles and IAC valves and EFI with electronic throttles. Some day in the future every modern thing that we have today will seem old, antiquated and of poor design.
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Originally posted by rejesterd View Post
You said the "dumb ECU" and talked in depth about how it can fry itself trying to maintain a steady idle.. so I took that to mean poor design. But 4 failures out of (what I would assume to be) thousands clarifies this a lot. Those are just outliers, and if you keep up with general maintenance, then this isn't something worth thinking about.
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[QUOTE=pstephens46;n215980]Originally posted by panasonic View Post
In person when given the opportunity. Stinks on TV. Why?
I thought you might like hockey.
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Originally posted by boscoe99 View PostHey Pan, are you keeping up with the Boeing 737 Max debacle? It is reported that this is going to cost Boeing over a billion bucks. US bucks. Not Loonies.
Does the term "penny wise and pound foolish" come to mind?
What comes to my mind is how they ever thought it was a good idea to have a primary flight control system operating off only one input, not the two that are available? How does that even be considered in an industry that relies completely on having pretty much everything redundant. Then the FAA signed off on it da boot.
Also it was an "option" to have a disagree warning light for the AOA vanes and a AOA indicator on the main display. So Boeing says to its customers here is a safe Aircraft but....with this option you get a "safer" one.
It makes no sense to me.
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[QUOTE=panasonic;n215986]Originally posted by pstephens46 View Post
Your in NC right? I just watched a **** between NYI and the Hurricanes. The Hurricanes have a good team this year..think they will do well. I am going for New York now that there are no Canadian teams left in...all the good Canadian players are down there!!
I thought you might like hockey.
I actually enjoyed watching the minor leagues growing up in Charlotte. Cheap ticket. Charlotte Checkers... Wish that was available here. Hard to watch on tv.
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