Originally posted by Jason2tpa
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Good point above about the noise possibly being in the lower and echoing up.
The long handled screwdriver tip... just in case you haven't done this before... you put the HANDLE end to your ear It acts as a mechanic's stethoscope (which are actually pretty inexpensive). Even a wooden dowel can work for this. When you find the trouble spot, you'll hear the noise more clearly.
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